Have your say on Crossrail 2 - proposed extension from Alexandra Palace to New Southgate - Bowes and Bounds Connected2024-03-29T05:42:05Zhttps://bowesandbounds.org/forum/topics/have-your-say-on-crossrail-2-proposed-extension-from-alexandra?commentId=6278630%3AComment%3A104384&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noA new consultation has been l…tag:bowesandbounds.org,2015-11-23:6278630:Comment:1043842015-11-23T11:52:48.397ZMatthew Kitchinghttps://bowesandbounds.org/profile/MatthewKitching
<p>A new consultation has been launched for Crossrail 2. It seems like a long way off (current plans indicate that if it was built it would be operational in 2030) but these things take a lot of planning and the consultation offers an opportunity to learn about the project. The link in Richard's post above will take you to the website where there are further links that take you to the list of consultation meetings. The ones that are relevant to the immediate area are as follows: Wood…</p>
<p>A new consultation has been launched for Crossrail 2. It seems like a long way off (current plans indicate that if it was built it would be operational in 2030) but these things take a lot of planning and the consultation offers an opportunity to learn about the project. The link in Richard's post above will take you to the website where there are further links that take you to the list of consultation meetings. The ones that are relevant to the immediate area are as follows: Wood Green-Ducketts Common (Across the road 38 Willoughby Road), N8 0JQ, 04/12/2015 Friday 12.00pm-8.00pm and 05/12/2015 and Saturday 11.00am-4.00pm; Alexandra Palace Station, Alexandra Palace Station London, N22 7ST, 07/12/2015, Monday, 12.00pm-8.00pm and 17/12/15, Thursday, 12.00-8.00pm; New Southgate Friern Bridge Retail Park Pegasus Way, London N11 3PW, 08/12/2015, Tuesday 12.00pm-8.00pm and 11/12/2015 Friday, 12.00pm-8.00pm. Please check these online before attending. According to the list for November there were two events held at Spouters Corner, Wood Green on 4th and 5th November - were you there and if so what did you think? It should be noted that the alignment for the scheme currently shows an option of going either via Turnpike Lane and Alexandra Palace or via Wood Green, any views on this? I'll declare my interest, I currently work on the project so I'm passionate about projects like this and public transport in general, however whatever your opinion I would encourage you to get involved, share your views and have your say. </p> It seems potentially very goo…tag:bowesandbounds.org,2014-10-28:6278630:Comment:854142014-10-28T17:47:22.864Zkarl brownhttps://bowesandbounds.org/profile/karlbrown
<p><font face="Calibri" size="3">It seems potentially very good news for the immediate and nearby areas.</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri" size="3">There is one interesting spin off relating to the long running Pinkham Way waste plant issue. The possibility remains that the land owners (Barnet Council and North London Waste Authority) could put the land forward as potential waste designated land within the new North London Waste Plan now under development. If agreed, such land becomes…</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri" size="3">It seems potentially very good news for the immediate and nearby areas.</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri" size="3">There is one interesting spin off relating to the long running Pinkham Way waste plant issue. The possibility remains that the land owners (Barnet Council and North London Waste Authority) could put the land forward as potential waste designated land within the new North London Waste Plan now under development. If agreed, such land becomes protected for waste (only) use.</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">The site – just south of the A406 off the southern of the two dumbbell roundabouts at the Retail Park – sits well within half a mile of a New Southgate Crossrail 2 Station. </font><font size="3">Checkout regular Evening standard articles of price increases close to developing stations on Crossrail 1 and consider that if it was going to be possible to develop this land at all, whether as an owner you would want to be constrained to waste plant and nothing else when the sky may be the limit.</font></font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri" size="3">Interesting issue for stretched public finances wrapped up in this as well as a whole lot more.</font></p>
<p></p> To update this discussion - a…tag:bowesandbounds.org,2014-10-28:6278630:Comment:853272014-10-28T16:43:56.722ZRichard McKeeverhttps://bowesandbounds.org/profile/3hwxkqhdde8gc
<p>To update this discussion - announcements have been made today which report on the consultation undertaken earlier this year and open a new round of consultations.</p>
<p>Crossrail 2 is the proposed new high-frequency, high-capacity rail line running through London and into Surrey and Hertfordshire. the route through Alexandra Palace (with a new underground station) terminating at New Southgate would mean far greater transport connectivity for our area.</p>
<p>The consultation report…</p>
<p>To update this discussion - announcements have been made today which report on the consultation undertaken earlier this year and open a new round of consultations.</p>
<p>Crossrail 2 is the proposed new high-frequency, high-capacity rail line running through London and into Surrey and Hertfordshire. the route through Alexandra Palace (with a new underground station) terminating at New Southgate would mean far greater transport connectivity for our area.</p>
<p>The consultation report published today says:</p>
<p><strong>Alexandra Palace to New Southgate</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>One of the branches we consulted on in 2013 proposed trains terminating at Alexandra Palace. However, many stakeholders suggested that Crossrail 2 should be extended further north to provide additional interchange opportunities at New Southgate. An option has therefore been identified to extend the service to New Southgate, which would be at no additional cost, given the savings identified through opportunities to use existing railway land for Crossrail 2 trains.</p>
<p>This extension would mean that the Alexandra Palace Crossrail 2 station becomes an underground station, rather than a station above ground, as proposed in 2013. The indicative map below shows the branch of Crossrail 2 continuing to New Southgate.</p>
<p><a target="_blank"><img class="align-center" src="https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/crossrail/june-2014/user_uploads/new-new-southgate.jpg-1"/></a></p>
<p>An extension to New Southgate would:</p>
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<li>Reduce journey times from New Southgate and the surrounding area to central London (see some example journey times in the table below)</li>
<li>Provide interchange opportunities with existing National Rail services, providing new journey opportunities and relief at interchange points elsewhere</li>
<li>Support plans for development around the station</li>
<li>Reduce disruption at Alexandra Palace during construction and create an opportunity to use existing railway land at New Southgate for a depot and sidings for Crossrail 2</li>
</ul>
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<p>An extension to New Southgate is likely to impact on the parking area and open yard to the rear of the light industrial units to the northern end of the North Circular Road. </p>
<table border="1" cellspacing="0">
<tbody><tr><td style="width: 225px;"><p><strong>Journey</strong></p>
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<td style="width: 198px;"><p><strong>Current journey time</strong></p>
</td>
<td style="width: 193px;"><p><strong>Predicted journey time</strong></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td style="width: 225px;"><p>New Southgate – Euston</p>
</td>
<td style="width: 198px;"><p>24 minutes</p>
</td>
<td style="width: 193px;"><p>17 minutes</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td style="width: 225px;"><p>New Southgate – Victoria</p>
</td>
<td style="width: 198px;"><p>30 minutes</p>
</td>
<td style="width: 193px;"><p>21 minutes</p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
</blockquote>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/crossrail/june-2014" target="_blank">Read full details here</a></li>
</ul>
<p></p> I think this is a great oppor…tag:bowesandbounds.org,2014-06-17:6278630:Comment:801152014-06-17T10:18:16.051ZG Fohttps://bowesandbounds.org/profile/GiulioFolino
<p>I think this is a great opportunity for us to feed in to the consultation. I have suggested that, if possible, Bowes Park be included in the extension to help with the rush hour congestion on the FCC line. Bowes Park is also fairly close to Bounds Green underground station, so I think it would be ideal.</p>
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<p>You can read the proposals here and scroll to the bottom to launch the survey:…</p>
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<p>I think this is a great opportunity for us to feed in to the consultation. I have suggested that, if possible, Bowes Park be included in the extension to help with the rush hour congestion on the FCC line. Bowes Park is also fairly close to Bounds Green underground station, so I think it would be ideal.</p>
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<p>You can read the proposals here and scroll to the bottom to launch the survey:</p>
<p><a href="https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/crossrail/june-2014/consult_view" target="_blank">https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/crossrail/june-2014/consult_view</a></p>
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<p>If you want to just input your views straightaway here is the direct link to the survey:</p>
<p><a href="https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/crossrail/june-2014/consultation" target="_blank">https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/crossrail/june-2014/consultation</a></p>
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<p>Giulio</p> Neither. It would be a new hi…tag:bowesandbounds.org,2014-06-14:6278630:Comment:795482014-06-14T06:34:48.828ZLondon Undergroundhttps://bowesandbounds.org/profile/LondonUnderground
<p>Neither. It would be a new high frequency, high capacity rail line. </p>
<p>Neither. It would be a new high frequency, high capacity rail line. </p> Im confused. Is this an exten…tag:bowesandbounds.org,2014-06-14:6278630:Comment:795452014-06-14T00:01:19.551Zbrighid langtryhttps://bowesandbounds.org/profile/brighidlangtry
<p>Im confused. Is this an extention of the tube or overground?</p>
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<p>Im confused. Is this an extention of the tube or overground?</p>
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