Pedestrian footbridge at Wilmer Way - Bowes Road. - Bowes and Bounds Connected2024-03-28T20:48:43Zhttps://bowesandbounds.org/forum/topics/pedestrian-footbridge-at-wilmer-way-bowes-road?commentId=6278630%3AComment%3A94965&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThanks all and yes it has bee…tag:bowesandbounds.org,2017-04-03:6278630:Comment:1224172017-04-03T10:08:40.526ZLouca-Mai Bradyhttps://bowesandbounds.org/profile/LoucaMaiBrady
<p>Thanks all and yes it has been almost exactly three years, which is frankly inexcusable. It didn't help that a lot of the first year was wasted in arguments about who was responsible, meaning that what should have been a relatively straightforward replacement of a bolt became something much bigger. And then the ridiculous litany of excuses since then from TfL has made matters even worse. I just really hope that this isn't symptomatic of wider organisational incompetence at TfL - but again…</p>
<p>Thanks all and yes it has been almost exactly three years, which is frankly inexcusable. It didn't help that a lot of the first year was wasted in arguments about who was responsible, meaning that what should have been a relatively straightforward replacement of a bolt became something much bigger. And then the ridiculous litany of excuses since then from TfL has made matters even worse. I just really hope that this isn't symptomatic of wider organisational incompetence at TfL - but again not holding my breath!</p>
<p>At least now all the children who cross that road everyday can now finally do so safely - just a shame it took three years!</p> Yes, this sounds all too cred…tag:bowesandbounds.org,2017-04-01:6278630:Comment:1224132017-04-01T12:01:14.033ZMichael Dawsonhttps://bowesandbounds.org/profile/MichaelDawson
<p>Yes, this sounds all too credible. You can just see the "commercial confidentiality" excuse being trotted out, as the "matter of national security" one clearly won't wash. Someone at TfL really should write an account of what happened in this case, whether anyone has faced any sanction or penalty and what lessons have been learnt. But I won't hold my breath.</p>
<p>Yes, this sounds all too credible. You can just see the "commercial confidentiality" excuse being trotted out, as the "matter of national security" one clearly won't wash. Someone at TfL really should write an account of what happened in this case, whether anyone has faced any sanction or penalty and what lessons have been learnt. But I won't hold my breath.</p> Dear Hutch
Well by my reckoni…tag:bowesandbounds.org,2017-04-01:6278630:Comment:1223202017-04-01T11:03:11.662ZGeoffrey Kemball-Cookhttps://bowesandbounds.org/profile/GeoffreyKemballCook
<p>Dear Hutch</p>
<p>Well by my reckoning that's exactly THREE YEARS give or take a day or two, That must make the job eligible for some kind of award. I wonder if anyone, anywhere from the commissioners to the designers to the construction engineers to TfL and anyone else has suffered in the slightest as a result of this gigantic cockup. Anyone been censured, demoted, sacked? I rather doubt it. Indeed, has anyone been honest enough to put their hand up and say "Sorry, it was me/us"? I suspect…</p>
<p>Dear Hutch</p>
<p>Well by my reckoning that's exactly THREE YEARS give or take a day or two, That must make the job eligible for some kind of award. I wonder if anyone, anywhere from the commissioners to the designers to the construction engineers to TfL and anyone else has suffered in the slightest as a result of this gigantic cockup. Anyone been censured, demoted, sacked? I rather doubt it. Indeed, has anyone been honest enough to put their hand up and say "Sorry, it was me/us"? I suspect not - all hiding behind corporate anonymity. In what I hope is the end of this sorry saga, it is the complete absence of any acknowledgment of responsibility which is so corrosive.</p>
<p>Geoff</p> If any body is interested the…tag:bowesandbounds.org,2017-04-01:6278630:Comment:1224122017-04-01T10:49:06.106ZHutch Woodwardhttps://bowesandbounds.org/profile/HutchWoodward
<p>If any body is interested the bridge is now open.</p>
<p>If any body is interested the bridge is now open.</p> Merry Xmas Geoff and all (exc…tag:bowesandbounds.org,2016-12-20:6278630:Comment:1197012016-12-20T20:19:11.755ZMatthew Kitchinghttps://bowesandbounds.org/profile/MatthewKitching
<p>Merry Xmas Geoff and all (excepting TfL in this instance). What a mess and what a sorry saga!</p>
<p>Merry Xmas Geoff and all (excepting TfL in this instance). What a mess and what a sorry saga!</p> In September I confidently pr…tag:bowesandbounds.org,2016-12-20:6278630:Comment:1195022016-12-20T19:50:48.274ZGeoffrey Kemball-Cookhttps://bowesandbounds.org/profile/GeoffreyKemballCook
<p>In September I confidently predicted that these repairs would not be carried out by the end of 2016. It gives me little pleasue to report that the supports for the footbridge are still swathed in plastic and scaffolding. I actually think that no-one knows how to repair the bridge.</p>
<p>However Merry Xmas everyone (apart from the incompetents at every stage of this sorry saga).</p>
<p>Geoff</p>
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<p>In September I confidently predicted that these repairs would not be carried out by the end of 2016. It gives me little pleasue to report that the supports for the footbridge are still swathed in plastic and scaffolding. I actually think that no-one knows how to repair the bridge.</p>
<p>However Merry Xmas everyone (apart from the incompetents at every stage of this sorry saga).</p>
<p>Geoff</p>
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<p></p> Nobody is sleeping under the…tag:bowesandbounds.org,2016-12-09:6278630:Comment:1188992016-12-09T19:57:11.091ZHutch Woodwardhttps://bowesandbounds.org/profile/HutchWoodward
<p>Nobody is sleeping under the bridge as i have checked many times in the early hours of the morning just to be sure.</p>
<p>A duvet has been dumped in a bag under the bridge and as Donald mentions its Enfields responsibility to clean it up along with all the other litter.</p>
<p>Nobody is sleeping under the bridge as i have checked many times in the early hours of the morning just to be sure.</p>
<p>A duvet has been dumped in a bag under the bridge and as Donald mentions its Enfields responsibility to clean it up along with all the other litter.</p> Despite the public highway be…tag:bowesandbounds.org,2016-12-02:6278630:Comment:1188632016-12-02T13:33:47.275ZDonald Smithhttps://bowesandbounds.org/profile/DonaldSmith
<p>Despite the public highway being the responsibility of Transport for London, legal responsibility for clearing any littering is the responsibility of London Borough of Enfield.</p>
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<p>Despite the public highway being the responsibility of Transport for London, legal responsibility for clearing any littering is the responsibility of London Borough of Enfield.</p>
<p></p> It does indeed show spectacul…tag:bowesandbounds.org,2016-12-01:6278630:Comment:1190762016-12-01T10:34:50.284ZLouca-Mai Bradyhttps://bowesandbounds.org/profile/LoucaMaiBrady
<p>It does indeed show spectacular incompetence, for which nobody seems to take full responsibility. The state of the area around the bridge at Ollerton Road end is also pretty poor, there is litter everywhere and signs that someone is sleeping under the bridge at night. Given that contractors are working there every day I just hope they are going to clean it up at the end, as leaving it in such a state of neglect is likely to attract more dumping and antisocial behaviour.</p>
<p>It does indeed show spectacular incompetence, for which nobody seems to take full responsibility. The state of the area around the bridge at Ollerton Road end is also pretty poor, there is litter everywhere and signs that someone is sleeping under the bridge at night. Given that contractors are working there every day I just hope they are going to clean it up at the end, as leaving it in such a state of neglect is likely to attract more dumping and antisocial behaviour.</p> Maybe the head of TfL could c…tag:bowesandbounds.org,2016-12-01:6278630:Comment:1188622016-12-01T09:00:38.571ZMichael Dawsonhttps://bowesandbounds.org/profile/MichaelDawson
<p>Maybe the head of TfL could come to a grand bridge re-opening, with full media publicity, making a speech in which the reasons for the interminable delays are all fully explained and the cost to TfL is clearly set out. Maybe he could also explain how a city in Japan managed to repair massive damage to a busy city centre road junction created by a collapsing sump hole in just one week, as shown on ITN news recently, but the Wilmer Way footbridge repair has taken two and a half years. Maybe…</p>
<p>Maybe the head of TfL could come to a grand bridge re-opening, with full media publicity, making a speech in which the reasons for the interminable delays are all fully explained and the cost to TfL is clearly set out. Maybe he could also explain how a city in Japan managed to repair massive damage to a busy city centre road junction created by a collapsing sump hole in just one week, as shown on ITN news recently, but the Wilmer Way footbridge repair has taken two and a half years. Maybe pigs will fly! </p>