The Duke of Edinburgh public house - Bowes and Bounds Connected2024-03-28T14:20:20Zhttps://bowesandbounds.org/forum/topics/the-lord-nelson-public-house?feed=yes&xn_auth=noDuke of Edinburgh public hous…tag:bowesandbounds.org,2022-04-02:6278630:Comment:2394762022-04-02T15:53:19.147ZRichard Matzhttps://bowesandbounds.org/profile/RichardMatz
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<p>Attempts to legitimise the unauthorised conversion of the pub into a restaurant were rejected by Haringey last November. Four months later, the restaurant is still trading without authorisation. You will note that there are no alcoholic drinks are available on the menu:…</p>
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<p>Attempts to legitimise the unauthorised conversion of the pub into a restaurant were rejected by Haringey last November. Four months later, the restaurant is still trading without authorisation. You will note that there are no alcoholic drinks are available on the menu:</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow noopener" href="https://www.arecarestaurant.co.uk/" target="_blank">Areca Restaurant</a></p>
<p>Emboldened by Haringeys lack of enforcement of its own planning regulations, the owners have now submitted a planning application for a far more substantial redevelopment of the site. You will notice that the application disingenuously refers to the pub that is no longer there:</p>
<p><em>HGY/2022/0723 - Erection of a rear roof extension to existing public house building to create 21 Class C1 guest rooms across first, second and third floors above retained pub, and erection of a 5 storey building to rear to provide 9 no. Class C3 residential flats, with basement below to serve pub.</em></p>
<p> <a rel="nofollow noopener" href="http://www.planningservices.haringey.gov.uk/portal/servlets/ApplicationSearchServlet?PKID=417979" target="_blank">DoE Planning App 2022</a><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.planningservices.haringey.gov.uk/portal/servlets/ApplicationSearchServlet?PKID=417979"></a></p>
<p> I have submitted a complaint about the Haringey’s lack of enforcement of its own planning regulations which encourages illicit building and construction (e.g. The Lord Nelson pub still trading as a restaurant despite planning refusal)</p>
<p> “<em>But the pub was derelict... they’ve made such a nice job of it...</em>” came the cry. But what if they had made a really bad job of it? If a family home next to you was made into a House of Multiple Occupancy without planning permission where half a dozen or more vulnerable people are overcrowded into small unsanitary spaces - Who do you complain to? A planning dept with no teeth? Want to see a planning Free4All? Walk through the fug of woodsmoke and charring flesh down Wood Green High Road this weekend. Note the proliferation of pound shops, mobile phone/vaping shacks, casinos, bookies, chicken & kebab shops.<br/><br/>Yeah or Nay, please submit your comments on the application on the above link</p> See email below from Haringey…tag:bowesandbounds.org,2022-04-02:6278630:Comment:2395302022-04-02T15:30:23.308ZAnna Jenkinshttps://bowesandbounds.org/profile/AnnaJenkins
<p>See email below from Haringey Planning:</p>
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<p><strong>From:</strong> Quick Russell <Russell.Quick@haringey.gov.uk></p>
<p><strong>Subject:</strong> <strong>RE: The Lord Nelson 232 - 234 High Road Wood Green N22 8HH</strong></p>
<p><strong>Date:</strong> 11 January 2022 at 15:16:10 GMT</p>
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<p><span>Hi, </span><span>Thank you for your email.</span><span> …</span></p>
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<p>See email below from Haringey Planning:</p>
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<p><strong>From:</strong> Quick Russell <Russell.Quick@haringey.gov.uk></p>
<p><strong>Subject:</strong> <strong>RE: The Lord Nelson 232 - 234 High Road Wood Green N22 8HH</strong></p>
<p><strong>Date:</strong> 11 January 2022 at 15:16:10 GMT</p>
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<p><span>Hi, </span><span>Thank you for your email.</span><span> </span></p>
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<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>The appeal decision includes a compliance period of 3 months, therefore the restaurant is required to cease trading by 11/04/2022.</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>If they continue trading after 11/04/2022 then we will begin prosecution proceedings.</strong></span></p>
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<p><span>Kind regards,</span></p>
<p><strong><span>Russell Quick</span></strong></p>
<p><strong><span>Planning Enforcement Officer</span></strong></p>
<p><span>Planning, Regeneration and Economy | Haringey Council</span></p>
<p><span>River Park House 225 High Road | London | N22 8HQ</span></p>
<p><span>Tel: 020 8489 2184 | <a href="mailto:Russell.Quick@haringey.gov.uk">Russell.Quick@haringey.gov.uk</a></span></p>
<p><span><a href="http://www.haringey.gov.uk/">www.haringey.gov.uk</a></span></p>
<p><span> </span></p> the appeal was refused. see p…tag:bowesandbounds.org,2022-01-11:6278630:Comment:2389942022-01-11T15:02:37.915ZAnna Jenkinshttps://bowesandbounds.org/profile/AnnaJenkins
<p>the appeal was refused. see pdf.</p>
<p>the appeal was refused. see pdf.</p> the owners had their permissi…tag:bowesandbounds.org,2021-10-07:6278630:Comment:2372342021-10-07T10:46:17.375ZAnna Jenkinshttps://bowesandbounds.org/profile/AnnaJenkins
<p>the owners had their permission to turn this pub into a restaurant denied in dec 2020</p>
<p>yet... it is still trading as a restaurant</p>
<p>the owners have appealed to the planning inspectorate</p>
<p><span>You can find the appeal on the following link:</span> <br/><br/><a href="https://acp.planninginspectorate.gov.uk/">https://acp.planninginspectorate.gov.uk/</a><br/><br/><span>The reference number is 3277642</span></p>
<p>the owners had their permission to turn this pub into a restaurant denied in dec 2020</p>
<p>yet... it is still trading as a restaurant</p>
<p>the owners have appealed to the planning inspectorate</p>
<p><span>You can find the appeal on the following link:</span> <br/><br/><a href="https://acp.planninginspectorate.gov.uk/">https://acp.planninginspectorate.gov.uk/</a><br/><br/><span>The reference number is 3277642</span></p> Thanks Daniel. These changes…tag:bowesandbounds.org,2020-11-22:6278630:Comment:1919192020-11-22T17:50:58.430ZRichard Matzhttps://bowesandbounds.org/profile/RichardMatz
<p>Thanks Daniel. These changes came into effect on 1st September 2020. The refurbishment and opening of the restaurant preceded this in August 2020. T'Council have specified that this legislation does not apply retrospectively</p>
<p>Thanks Daniel. These changes came into effect on 1st September 2020. The refurbishment and opening of the restaurant preceded this in August 2020. T'Council have specified that this legislation does not apply retrospectively</p> Hi Richard,
You may not be a…tag:bowesandbounds.org,2020-11-22:6278630:Comment:1917592020-11-22T12:34:59.047ZDaniel Cowanhttps://bowesandbounds.org/profile/DanielCowan
<p>Hi Richard,</p>
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<p>You may not be aware, but the government recently made some big changes to the planning use classes:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.planninggeek.co.uk/use-class/use-class-changes-in-2020-21/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.planninggeek.co.uk/use-class/use-class-changes-in-2020-21/</a></p>
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<p>This may affect how you frame your objections to these proposals, but I am not sure at the moment.</p>
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<p>Daniel</p>
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<p>Hi Richard,</p>
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<p>You may not be aware, but the government recently made some big changes to the planning use classes:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.planninggeek.co.uk/use-class/use-class-changes-in-2020-21/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.planninggeek.co.uk/use-class/use-class-changes-in-2020-21/</a></p>
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<p>This may affect how you frame your objections to these proposals, but I am not sure at the moment.</p>
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<p>Daniel</p>
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