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Permalink Reply by Mandy Norman on July 4, 2019 at 18:41

Totally agree. Having the chairs and tables out on the pavement adds a really lovely vibe to the street. From what I've seen, they're not blocking anything. They are small businesses that shouldn't have to pay for such nonsense. Haringey Council, find more important things to crack down! There are plenty to choose from.

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Permalink Reply by Michael Dawson on July 4, 2019 at 19:00

Absolutely agree. I have never had any problem with the road being blocked, despite various places having a few chairs outside - the Hellenic Bakery and the Step come to mind.

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Permalink Reply by Trish Dyson on July 4, 2019 at 19:22

I notice Renaissance no longer has a table and chairs outside - is this why?  I think pavement tables improve the atmosphere on the street, and certainly don’t cause an obstruction!

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Permalink Reply by miranda andrea on July 4, 2019 at 21:23

I am disgusted by council fining these business’s. I loved sitting outside and it does enhance the ambience and vibe in the street! So petty and no feasible reason to do this at all!'!!!!!!!

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Permalink Reply by Chris Mc on July 5, 2019 at 9:43

Yes, this exactly the reason, and also Mum's Bistro who had a warning from the council. Crazy situation, which serves no purpose except reinforce the 'jobsworth' image of hardworking council officers. 

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Permalink Reply by miranda andrea on July 5, 2019 at 10:41

Yes i fully agreed with with you Chris! I am disgruntled!

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Permalink Reply by Gregory Hartwell on July 7, 2019 at 0:43

The few tables and chairs are a great contribution to enhance the road, which I thought should be the Council's main objective.

Can the local Councillors be asked to do something to stop this persecution of our local traders?

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Permalink Reply by Meg Bond on July 9, 2019 at 16:04

I support the cafe owners on this issue. Does anyone know who we should contact at Harringay Council about this?

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Permalink Reply by Mandy Norman on July 9, 2019 at 16:10

I'm wondering if a joint letter/email to our local councillors, like Gregory said, would be the way to go? If they have letters/emails from a few of us, I'm guessing it could make a positive difference?

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Permalink Reply by Lucia on July 10, 2019 at 18:23

I'm told a meeting is being organised by local cllrs to meet with traders and sort things out....

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Permalink Reply by Richard Matz on July 12, 2019 at 0:34

Please publicise the time, date and venue of this meeting to maximise participation & consultation. Thanks 

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Permalink Reply by Renaissance on July 12, 2019 at 11:33

A brief Update-

Thanks to everyone for their lovely support for us all here on Myddleton Rd.

Our issue is that the council were supposed to be working with us to restore the street to that of its glorious past, they have been insisting new tenants of the shops put in wooden shop fronts etc. And as some of you know, placed a preservation order on all the shopfronts.

Under a previous Labour government, some funding was used to help shop keepers restore the shop canopies, some were paid for at the top end of Myddelton Rd.

This aided the beginning of the redevelopment and the turn around of the street.

There was previously a line of trading items if you look at early photos, from Anita's hair fashions 

the shop elevations disappeared apart from a few.

Someone last week told me after an incident during the war, such extensions were removed and never re-instated.

Other commercial premises in our area have hit similar problems with placing items outside their shops on the fronts of their shops, and to our knowledge they have not been fined.

The cafes and bars with an on-street presence have massively helped extinguish the gangs and drug trading that was evident on the street previously.

As so many of you have commented, our presence on the street has drastically reduced such related crime, but as one fellow venue owner here commented, its up to the council as to  whether we continue this progress, or return it to the declined and crime-infested street it once was.

Our view is that the council should be working with us to help us create a beautifully reinstated Victorian High st which could easily transform into one of the nicest spots in the borough.

It is also noted the lovely flower baskets usually on the lamposts have not been put up this year.

From a personal perspective, we, like many businesses on the street, have invested thousands of pounds of our own money to create premises which are up to a high standard as well as creating a lovely vibe for the whole community to enjoy and be proud of.

With support, we can ensure this area never slips back into social decline again.

We have heard from the councillors and they are trying to arrange a meeting with the council,I will inform you all of when this will take place.

Our MP Catherine West has also replied to us and said she has also written to the council regarding this matter.

Regards

Paul Handley-Renaissance

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