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Permalink Reply by Andrew Irvine on July 13, 2015 at 1:10

I am not sure that it is only a few people- just because only a few people on this site have responded, it doesn't prove that hundreds of other people in the area wouldn't prefer it if flyposting didn't happen.

Permalink Reply by Shona Rose on July 13, 2015 at 14:07

Cuts both ways, Andrew.   Just because you object doesn't mean that hundreds of other people are bothered by it.

Permalink Reply by Mary Sweeney on July 14, 2015 at 18:52

I'm not bothered by the fly posting. It is a great way to find out what is going on in the area. I have joined a Pilates class, gone to barn dances, quiz nights and markets all due to posters I have seen scattered around the place. The posters in this area are usually for local and small events. Most posters seem to be removed once the events have finished. A lot more notice boards would be good but in their absence I have no objection to fly posting as happening in the BnB area.

Permalink Reply by Caroline Simpson on July 10, 2015 at 15:01

Well.... it appears that no-one has stepped up to making a notice board to fit on the Tin Tabernacle fencing.  Pity.

But....Last week I had a meeting with a Bowes Park station chap , together with Heidi from the new Business Association, and Bill was most helpful. He was not in favour of open fronted boards, that anyone could put things in and out of, but..... He said that he would try to get two of the blue framed standard notice boards that the train company uses, and put one down on the platform for the Businesses, and one up on the wall of the walkway to the station from Whittington rd, which will be for Community notices.  I hope he succeeds and then at least some of these issues can be 'ticked'.

But if someone is willing to make a board for the Samaritan railings.... then I am sure that will be welcome too.

Permalink Reply by Joanna Christophides on July 10, 2015 at 15:13

Hi Caroline

Might be best to check with The Samaritans first though. Clare contacted Nigel about a notice board and he confirmed that as and when the Tin Tabernacle is refurbished they will include a notice board.

Be great if Govia could do that. I believe Clare and Ali are meeting with them in the next couple of weeks.

Joanna

Permalink Reply by Caroline Simpson on July 10, 2015 at 16:06

See the May 1st post on the previous page.... I read it that the Samaritans happy with one now.

Caroline

Permalink Reply by Shona Rose on July 11, 2015 at 9:51

Yes, their email said they are happy if we put one up now (on the understanding that it'll need to come down when they renovate).  
S.

Permalink Reply by gabriela Schutz on July 12, 2015 at 21:19

That's a great development!

Permalink Reply by Andrew Irvine on July 13, 2015 at 1:06

The only street posters like this I would tolerate are temporary ones that have "will be removed after event" on them, otherwise I often remove this kind of thing in my area.  I don't read them and wouldn't tend to trust such amateur, illegal things generally.  Our area (Arnos West, just north of B&B) has a community noticeboard on the NS Millennium Green, though that is only for community things, not commercial use.

Permalink Reply by Shona Rose on July 13, 2015 at 14:13

What a peculiar attitude.  There is nothing that makes a physical poster less reliable than an online post. On the one hand you condemn them as "amateurish", but on the other you say they are "commercial"?
And the point that several of us are making, is that the existence of these local classes & clubs adds to our community feel, not takes anything away.  
I should add that I am not a poster ... but if I did have something to advertise I'd like a central place to do so, so I welcome the news that the local businesses are getting together to organise a notice board.

Permalink Reply by Sureka Fernando on July 13, 2015 at 15:05

Adding to Shona's point, as small, part time businesses (we are mostly local mums that have built our small businesses to fit in around 3.30pm school pick up time), these posters are our lifeline and they wouldn't be if people didn't feel they added to the vibrancy of their local community and respond positively to them.

Removing these posters ruins someone's livelihood and potentially deprives someone else the opportunity of enjoying the wealth of activities offered in the local community - It is often older people, foreigners and people who are new to the area that respond to the posters and not only do they develop a new hobby but they gain a ready-made social group.

However large and sophisticated our online campaigns get (yes we are happy to spend money on advertising), posters still account for 50% of new business because not everyone is online/ knows where to look/ trusts information online. Seeing a poster locally tells them there is a class on nearby. If they tried to find the same class online they may fail as big corporations have much bigger budgets to stay at the top of google.

My Salsa classes have been running for 2 years now and I have finally managed to invest in a website to bring in more business so hopefully will be flyposting less now but small start-up businesses need time to get to that position. 

Not every community is lucky enough to have the wealth of activities we have on our doorstep in Bowes and Bounds and I for one would like to see these preserved as they lead to a more connected community.

Permalink Reply by amanda wilkes on July 13, 2015 at 15:35

Yes, local business should be encouraged but I think we have to accept that not everyone appreciates posters attached to lamposts, and they are illegal. Public spaces do not exist for the purpose of free business advertising, and I think it is rather selfish for anyone think that it's ok to advertise this way.

The council website states:

"Vandalism is an illegal, anti-social activity that creates a negative impression of an area...

The council is committed to tackling graffiti and fly posting. Like vandalism, this is an anti-social problem. Please help us to stamp it out by reporting any incidents of graffiti and fly-posting that you see."

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