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Permalink Reply by Richard McKeever on June 22, 2015 at 11:47

There have been other recent reports of sewage smells in Palmers Green - just opposite the station a peculiar aroma at Wm. Morrisons & Co. supermarket has been the subject of much online discussion on the Palmers Green Community website ... and there is also major sewer work underway at Deadmans Bridge, which has been causing traffic hold-ups for weeks...

Of course these are most likely isolated, and separate incidents ... but there is an alternate and more far-fetched view ... when considered alongside the recent discovery of a mysterious document in the old Southgate Town Hall...  is it possible that these are manifestations of something stirring from below - the sulphorous stench hints that something is preparing to rise-up from the cavernous underworld!

Is there a supernatural threat that lurks beneath our feet? On these light, short nights ... watch your shadows folks.  :-)

... or more prosaically , wait for a full technical evaluation of the problem.

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Permalink Reply by karl brown on June 22, 2015 at 15:27

I fear this may be much, much more significant than is being made out

Not only is there the recent mystery of the Morrison's sewers break-out, now leaking water and a sewerage smell at the railway station – even reported in the press – but we also have the huge emergency water / sewerage repair works at Deadmans Bridge just south of PG library.  Recall the wording of the old manuscript (original now mysteriously in Baskervilles by the way):

For now we can be safe from the Terror. The 21 witches of Winchmore are no more. The terror they brought ……

 No longer will they take the eyes of our children for their spells; no longer turn our pets into worms; and the waters will stay contained.

 And later goes on to say:-

 Nine trees, representing the number of Man, should be planted to surround the lake and the drowned witches forming a ring of protection. These must be weeping willows, one weeping for each of the children of Southgate killed by the witches during the Terror. 

 And the nine trees must remain, for it was said that if there should ever be less than nine then the witches may return and the Terror live again even worse than before.

 

Has anyone seen the state of the ninth willow tree, recently dying at best, already dead if we’re unlucky? Or remember how the natural springs burst forcing the cancellation of the first Palmers Green Community Festival?

We’re struggling to justify nine willows and water related issues are now popping up all over the place. A sign?  Get ready to scream at Halloween I would say.

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Permalink Reply by karl brown on July 28, 2015 at 15:13

There were some doubters about all this water water everywhere and the implications for the Palmers Scream so I said nothing when Friends of the Park reported the boating lake had overflowed on 20th June, almost putting the nearby Palmers Greenery café underwater. But how about the new River Powys Lane? is all this really a coincidence?

(And note the Blues poster - this Sunday 1:30 -5:30. Free.)

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Permalink Reply by Donald Smith on July 28, 2015 at 15:32

Sorry Karl

The picture is nothing to do with witches when it is caused by a burst Thameswater water main!

Location: Powys Lane, Southgate. 36 POWYS lANE
Reference: MU303000030607895-001
Status: Works In Progress
Works owner: Thames Water, 0845 9200 800, Web Site
Street authority: Enfield
Start date: 23/07/2015
End date: 29/07/2015
Description: Main Clamp 18 to 24" Unmade in Verge. Our intention is to complete the Permanent Reinstatement in the same phase

This cast iron main outside #36 has surely burst before?

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TfL Notice of Event published on 17th July

Owing to Thames water works in Wilmer Way, Bus Route N91 will be temporarily diverted towards Trafalgar Square via Aldermans Hill, Green Lanes and Bowes Road to Arnos Grove LUL (then Line of Route) , instead of Powys Lane and Wilmer Way. 

http://www.bowesandbounds.org/events/night-bus-n91-on-diversion-via...

the works at Deadman's Bridge are described as follows:

Location: Green Lanes, Southgate. 122-JW ELMDALE ROAD

Reference: MU595B830-10/AMP5/H/22
Status: Works In Progress
Works owner: Thames Water, 0845 9200 800, Web Site
Street authority: Enfield
Start date: 30/03/2015
End date: 02/12/2015
Description: PHASE 2 & 3 WORKS TO CONSTRUCT A COMBINED SEWER OUTLET CHAMBER, ASSOCIATED PIPEWORK AND CONSTRUCTION OF MANHOLE CHAMBER,

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Permalink Reply by Mat Riches on July 29, 2015 at 8:45

I think I can make out the outline of a witch in the flow of the water. Sorry Donald, but something is definitely afoot.

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Permalink Reply by Lindsey Berthoud on June 23, 2015 at 17:22

Excellent!

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Permalink Reply by Donald Smith on June 23, 2015 at 14:31

I am NOT convinced of Witches , more like Karl Brown keeping the excitement going, to publicise his story in the  Palmers Green Scream http://www.palmersscream.uk/stories/the-mystery-rider.

The willows in Broomfield Park are surely replacements for the DISEASED trees that had to be felled.

There was the earlier (unmentioned) incident when Oakthorpe Road (east of the New River Bridge) was subject to an emergency road closure when the road surface was ripped up by water. The building of residential flats on the Palmers Green Library site will contribute to the pressure on foul water drains

as Richard McKeever writes:...."or more prosaically , wait for a full technical evaluation of the problem"

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Permalink Reply by Donald Smith on June 27, 2015 at 14:15

According to ( Karen) the Area Manager of GT Railway and William Mitchell of GT Railway at LBEnfield's Public Transport Consultative Group meeting on 25th June 2015, a contractor has been used at Palmers Green Station to clear a blocked drain behind the wall

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Permalink Reply by karl brown on July 29, 2015 at 14:20

Don, I think it's outrageous if Thames Water are in cahoots with an Ancient Terror as you suggest. Have you notified the Friends of Broomfield about this as likely reason for their lake overflowing in June?

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