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It must be the summer silly season for news:
Andrew Percy, Tory MP for Brigg and Goole, who sits on the health select committee, said: "This is a complete outrage. It is another example of how soft touch Britain has become the International Health Service. The NHS is there for British citizens who have paid in."^^**
Dr Sarah Wollaston, a GP and chairman of the health select committee, said: "You should not be offering EHIC cards to overseas citizens. This loophole will have to be rapidly closed because it has very serious implications for the NHS." ^^^^
Consultant surgeon J.Meirion Thomas told BBC Radio 4's Today programme it was a well known scam. He said better checks on identification would help prevent the fraud. ***
****Back on 6th April 2013 the same Surgeon wrote in The Spectator!
^^^^ but the EHIC card is surely for anyone "ordinarily resident" in the UK, which is a legal residence qualification under the tax legislation
^^** An MP and the Surgeon should remember that not everyone "ordinarily resident" has actually worked (too young) neither do they need to have a passport or a driving licence
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P'raps a bigger issue is whether or not tax-dodging Non-Doms (such as the Telegraph's owners, the Barclay Brothers) can still use the NHS free of charge? Just saying....
AndyCochrane 65 writes in the Daily Telegraph
As I posted 8 hours ago...
It is always useful to check facts rather than rely on the Daily Mail. The facts about what the EHIC card does and doesn’t cover can be found here:http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/H...
The key sentences are:
1. The EHIC will cover any medical treatment that becomes necessary during your trip, such as an illness or accident.
2. Each country's health system is different, and might not include all the things you would expect to get free of charge from the NHS. This means you may have to make a patient contribution to the cost of your care.
3. New EHIC rules mean you will no longer be able to claim refunds for patient contributions (co-payments) in the UK for treatment received after July 1 2014.
The EHIC card is designed for urgent not planned treatment (see point 1) and it basically means the holder can access healthcare in the same way as a local (points 2 and 3). If these rules are applied and their application checked (which I accept is an ‘if’), there is no advantage to an EU national in using a UK issued EHIC card to access treatment in their home country.
There would be an advance to the taxpayer in their home nation as the cost of treatment is met by the NHS not the foreign government, but unless the (Daily) Mail or DT (Daily Telegraph) are about to drop the bombshell that the Hungarian or any other EU government, are chartering planes to fly their citizens to the UK to obtain an
EHICH card before flying them home again, there is no actual fraud here.
Dougie wrote:
Professor Thomas, while right about many issues facing the NHS, is wrong to suggest that making possession of an NI number rather than an NHS number the qualification for an EHIC would help reduce misuse. NI numbers are easy for any EU citizen to obtain: they just have to ring the helpline and say they have an offer of work in the UK.
It continues to be the season when MPs especially the Secretary of States for Health do not understand their own Regulations: CLICK STORY HERE
EU workers ARE entitled to claim NHS funds for relatives abroad, Department of Health admits
Families qualify for European health insurance cards (EHIC) even if they have never set foot in the UK
Tens of thousands of EU citizens working in Britain are entitled to claim NHS funds to treat partners and children living in their home countries, the Department of Health admitted today.
Their families qualify for European health insurance cards (EHIC) even if they have never set foot in the UK, which means British taxpayers foot the bill for treatments not provided at home, the Evening Standard learned.
MPs called on David Cameron to reform the system and to take it up if necessary as part of his attempts to renegotiate European free movement rules. Tory MP John Redwood, the former Welsh Secretary, said: “This is just bizarre. The idea of EHIC is that people coming here from France have their health care billed to France. It is not supposed to mean that the NHS pays for people who do not live here.”
Under EU rules, any citizen working in the UK is entitled to the same benefits as British people. Some £55 million is already paid each year in child benefit to children of EU immigrants who live in other countries. A Department of Health spokeswoman said that anyone living and working in Britain was classed as being insured by the UK and entitled to NHS care. “If that person is insured then their spouse and family can apply to have the UK responsible for their health care costs, regardless of the country of residence,” she said.
The spokeswoman was unable to say how many people living in other EU countries took up the right or what the cost to UK taxpayers was.
The disclosure comes after the cost of EHICs was spotlighted in a Daily Mail investigation into illegal use of the cards by people who falsely claim to live in the UK to claim the cost of treatments abroad. However, claims under EU rules are perfectly legal.
Controversy over the EU rules was fuelled by a BBC report that thousands of young Britons could lose the right to claim some benefits for four years. The Government wants a four-year residency test for migrants but lawyers say it would breach EU laws unless it applies to all UK benefit applicants, from the age of 18.
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